Q3 Series change

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  • #11962
    turboman93
    turboman93
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    Everyone,

    Please make note that the series for Q3 has changed from the F40/McLaren series to a 1/24 Scaleauto GT series.  I will be working with Marty to comes up with the rules.  This was proposed and voted upon at the March club meeting on March, 10th.

    #11970
    BarkingSpyder
    BarkingSpyder
    Participant

    Great Idea!
    A spin-off may be getting ASCC members prepared with experience (and hopefully a car) to race on the Outlaw/Pflugerville 1/24 track; and certainly for any future races in Dallas.

    ... Fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar! Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime... Rush - Red Barchetta

    #11993
    porsche917
    porsche917
    Moderator

    Here is what lane spacing looks like between 1/32 and 1/24 scale cars.

     

    I tested my new Scaleauto Porsche 911 – box stock, no trued tires – and was able to get it to perform very well with the stock rubber un-trued tires.  I tried my older chassis Porsche 911 and the performance was completely different.  The new chassis far out performed the old one.  Looking forward to see how it can run with trued tires and a tuned chassis.

    Without any additional testing I would highly recommend us allowing the new carbon fiber chassis.  The adjustable front axle helps keep the rear tires flat.  If you are going to buy a new car you might as well make it the nicer one since there is very little cost difference.  Thoughts?

    #11995
    Radial TA
    Radial TA
    Participant

    Marty, who did you buy your new Porsche from and how could you be sure it had the carbon fiber chassis?

    #11998
    BarkingSpyder
    BarkingSpyder
    Participant

    Pendle (PSR) has these cars for 140gbp ==> $196 USD
    SC-7046C SC-7068R SC-7062R SC-7024RC SC-7027RC SC-7046R SC-7048R SC-7050R
    Always check to see if the desciption claims they have the Carbon fibre chassis kit – ‘SC8003C Scaleauto GT3 Chassis Kit’

    For anyone who already has a ScaleAuto 1/24 car – the main parts are still steel – the carbon fibre parts are:
    SC-8003c – Complete Kit $100 usd (front plate, H-plate, tounge with metal chassis main plate) SC-8102C, SC-8153c, SC-8104C
    SC-8101c – H-Plate (float plate) $24 usd
    SC-8153c – Front sub-plate $16 usd
    SC-8156c – Motor sub-plate $16 usd

    Alans carbon parts:
    SC-8003C GT1 1/24 Scale Chassis with carbon fiber parts $90 – includes the metal chassis plate SC-8102C, SC-8153c, SC-8104C (H, front sub plate, tounge)
    SC-8101c – H-Plate (float plate) $28
    SC-8102c – Alternative H-Plate (float plate) $25 // has less material
    SC-8104c – Guide Tongue $15

    I dont think 132slotcars.us has any of the cars. The GT3s are below but it is not clear if they have the carbon kit – an email or call to Alan could clarify.
    Cars with the new chassis should have a C or RC in the suffix.
    SC-7030 (BMW) SC-7038 SC-7039 (Porsches) $180.**us

    ... Fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar! Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime... Rush - Red Barchetta

    #12016
    porsche917
    porsche917
    Moderator

    The Porsche was a birthday present from my wife.  She purchased it from Pendle and it came with a set of foam wheels/tires for free.

    #12018
    turboman93
    turboman93
    Participant

    132slotcar.us has 2 BMW Z4s and 2 Dodge Vipers with the newer chassis.  If you are looking at other sites, make sure the part number on the car ends with “R”.  That seems to be the designation of the SC-8003 GT3 chassis.

    #12019
    turboman93
    turboman93
    Participant

    Add to that 2 Porsches along with a Porsche white kit with the SC-8003 GT3 chassis.

    I’m also considering using the foam tires and looking for input.  Using foams will mean that we have to clean the track of the residue of foam tire cleaner.  This will make the chassis for the Scaleauto more even and provide better grip.  The downside is the regular rubber tire performance will suffer until we build the grip on the track again with rubber.

    I’ve been putting thought into this since Saturday and I agree with Marty that it will make the series much more enjoyable for everyone.  Given the size of the Scaleauto on our track, the grip will keep the cars from bumping into each other and creating mayhem along with destruction.  The reduced grip moving forward on the 1/32 cars will make it challenging but it allows for more lenient racing as the cars are smaller and have more spacing between them.

    Please provide your thoughts here, so we can make a decision on tires by the May club meeting on May 12th.

    #12025
    Mitleid
    Mitleid
    Keymaster

    I am going to agree with the Foams but I see practice before the series potentially hurting the Lola series but it is really an unknown perimeter.

    "If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

    #12026
    chapracer65
    chapracer65
    Participant

    What are the actual cars that will be eligible?  Is it just those cars listed from Pendle Slot?  GT3 only?  No GT2?

    #12027
    turboman93
    turboman93
    Participant

    Russell,

    All Scaleauto GT cars are eligible.  I was just pointing out the ones with the new GT3 chassis.  You can use the older chassis.

    #12039
    BarkingSpyder
    BarkingSpyder
    Participant

    PROPOSAL TO MOVE TO Q4 – Since this is a Quarterly series, can we not swap it with the Carrera series? This solves the residue problem. The half-year race at that time is the Rally which will not run on the road course and hence not affected like the Lotus series.
    After the 1/24 SA series is over we can clean the track and have 2-3 weeks to let the whole thing dry in time for 2019-Series-1.

    TIRE MATERIAL -Has anyone tested these ScaleAuto rubber tires (against the foamies)
    SC-4731, 24×12 Slick, Soft, RT; SC-4736, 24×13 Slick, Soft – $12 @132Slotcar.US

    AFFECT ON 1/32 CARS -History shows that temporarily (a few weeks) F30s/SuperGrips actually have more grip (hence less drift in the corners) and goo/marble/shed quickly. Then, as the track dries the grip becomes unpredictable, kinda like when you reach a magnet’s break-point.

    ... Fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar! Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime... Rush - Red Barchetta

    #12042
    Radial TA
    Radial TA
    Participant

    At the risk of derisive reply’s, why don’t we practice with the Scaleauto rubber tires and magnets instead of goop on foam.

    #12043
    turboman93
    turboman93
    Participant

    Moving the series to Q4 will only postpone the issue and cause havoc in the Q1 series next year.  I don’t see how this is a solution to the residue problem.

    I’ve ordered some other tires that I want to test with and I’ll make the final decision once I’ve had time on all tire options.

    • This reply was modified 8 months, 3 weeks ago by turboman93 turboman93.
    #12045
    Radial TA
    Radial TA
    Participant

    While everyone with a 1/24 car is testing, please give input on the cars that handle our track the best, especially in the tight turn in green.  I’m going to hold off on buying a car until we get good info on or track.

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